/eu free trade agreement. >> i disagree with that. >> they have big deficiencies, and actually a bulwark on standard setting -- >> you disagree with the idea of trade -- >> no i definitely think trade boosts growth and want to see more net exports. what i have never seen is a connection between free trade agreements and an increase in our gdp or even our positive trade balance. more often than not -- >> when you look at nafta, haven't they finally concluded that there were more jobs created here because we were selling more? >> no, in fact, nafta is a -- nafta is a good example -- >> trade balance with mexico went negative. i'm saying after nafta our trade deficit with mexico went from positive to negative. >> nothing happens in a vacuum. >> it's a -- >> but -- >> current -- >> intellectually -- >> don't you know that free trade -- >> absolutely. i'm all for free trade. the nafta we were just talking about, it was 1200 pages. it actually doesn't take that long to write a free trade agreement. the nafta and many others -- >> that was shorter than the health care reform bill? >> you know,